Former White
House spokesman Jay Carney was in Chicago this week and pulled back the
curtains a bit on what it’s like to be a mouthpiece for the president. But as a
major executive for Amazon, Carney was coy, at best, about Chicago’s chances of
landing the e-commerce behemoth’s second headquarters.
Carney was at
a University of Chicago Institute of Politics event Monday and reflected on the
evolving relationship between the White House and the press — comparing his
time as press secretary to then-President Barack Obama with the often
criticized Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ work for President Donald Trump.
But he
artfully dodged questions about which city might land Amazon’s next
headquarters.
Event host
Steve Edwards, vice president and chief content officer at WBEZ, Chicago’s NPR
affiliate, and the former executive director of the Institute of Politics,
didn’t mind putting Carney on the spot — saying he had just one question: “Is
Chicago getting HQ2?”
“Wouldn’t
Rahm like to know,” Carney told Edwards and the assembled audience.
Like Carney,
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is an alum of the Obama administration. But it
didn’t sound like being part of the same fraternity will help Chicago’s shot at
HQ2.
Carney, 52,
also reflected on his years as a correspondent in Time’s Moscow bureau and
eventually as the magazine’s Washington bureau chief. His time on the other
side of the podium — and his clear admiration for journalists — did not stop
the Obama administration from often going around the press and taking its
message public on chummy late night shows and social media.
Although the
strategy was criticized by some, Carney said the thinking behind using new
media was that the administration had to meet people where they were; some
audiences read newspapers, others watch “Between Two Ferns.”
Obama was the
first president to have a Twitter handle. But, according to Carney, nothing the
former president ever tweeted went out before the team saw it. Trump, on the
other hand, is a prolific tweeter — one who doesn’t necessarily have an editor.
In a recent
episode of the “The Axe Files” podcast — hosted by current Institute of
Politics director David Axelrod, another former Obama administration staffer —
Carney said the job of the press secretary has become unrecognizable in Trump’s
administration.
“What did you
mean by that?” Edwards asked on Monday.
Carney let
out a small laugh. “Have you got six hours?”
One piece of
advice he was given, he said, was, “Never lie. You don’t have to. Not because
you’re morally superior to somebody who might, but because the credibility you
have will erode much more quickly — to the detriment of the president, to the
White House, to the administration and to the country — if you get caught in an
untruth. That doesn’t mean every word I ever said was accurate. But when I
found out, or my colleagues found out, after the fact that I had said something
that turned out not to be true, unknowingly, we rushed to correct it and were
mortified.”
“You
obviously put the best spin on a set of facts as you could. You believed, as I
did, in the policies that we were putting forward and why they were the right
policies. And we made that case — but you didn’t make it up. You wouldn’t,
because it would be humiliating when it was so easily discovered that you had.”
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